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however old he is, I don't really know, but he says he's got a shoulder and also he can't fight for more than a minute, so he would have to do it quick or something, I mean it was like, it was really stupid, (IA) but, yeah. No I didn't. Uh yeah... Pleasant? (Laughs) well that's not such a nice conversation. And what's her problem? Yeah, absolutely. What she say? (Laughs) what did she say to that? Oh. Ooh, I can imagine, I have to tell ya... I, I, when I, I didn't think about it until I saw her last night, and it must be painful to go through that. No, I, I didn't know. Of course they are, there's no doubt about that. Um, I have to tell ya. I had uh, a couple of conversations, even with, even with uh, what's the guy's uh, name, Allen from Edgewater Park? What's his name? He was with Adsert, and they uh, it's beyond upset, it's... Ah, it... Ahight, well I'll tell ya, I disagree a little bit, I think if things that you say or do, whether you meant it this way or not, affect somebody, hurt somebody, then I think that there's, there's an apology in
   
order. You know what I mean? And, and, and, in other words he can say I was aware my, choice of words, if my choice of words um, you know, hurt uh, you know hurt people, then, you know, for that apologize or... Yeah, he, he, he does (IA), I mean whether it's, whether they are conveniently using that as the issue or not, ok? Or whether these, she's genuinely hurt over it, um, you know, it, it, it doesn't, it takes a pretty big man to apologize and I, and I think he does owe one on that respect, urn, factually, ok? The, the uh, what do I wanna say? The um, the content was accurate in that, maybe not the content, maybe that's not the right word, the uh, what do I wanna say? The uh, the substance, yeah, you know what? That's it. The substance, the substance was accurate, the style was uh, was uh, hurtful. And, you know, I think that if he were to write another letter, and he could reinforce the substance of his letter, would apologize for the style, I think that would go a long way. Uh huh. Right. Oh yeah, that's right, both him and his wife were there. I didn't, I didn't speak to them and I should. I didn't speak to them and I probably should have. But oh, the reason I called, um, first of all, Elizabeth stopped over my house last night, ok, to tell me that she had spoken to the um, you know, the Harrington investigators apparently, and uh, so I'm just passing that on. Urn, and also to give you... yes I do.

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